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Remember when
by blownaway ini remember when paterson was built.
the so called training facility.
we were told it was to teach elders what their job was after armageddon.
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Destruction to start from “God’s House”
by Ireneus inhere is the greatest irony: people proclaiming the destruction of others are the first ones to experience destruction, foretaste of which is already experienced in the form of shrinking glory, finance and confidence!.
babel means confusion, hence babylon the great means a great nation of confusing doctrines.
this nation is “intoxicated” and “drunk with the blood of god’s holy ones.” (revelation 17:2, 6) the greatest intoxication of christendom and its heartland jehovah’s witnesses is with their own claim of having monopoly on truth and thus treating rest of the mankind as pagan, a concept that kills everything god’s holy ones stood for (mathew 7:12).
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Do you still want to be identified as a Christian?
by eyeuse2badub inmost americans want some form of religious identity - even atheists are creating churches.
by j. warner wallace | fox news.
the number of self-proclaimed christians is shrinking in america.. i’ve been collecting data on this trend for over 10 years, and the surveys reveal an important truth: fewer people claim a christian affiliation than ever before, and those who claim no religious affiliation are the fastest growing group in america.. but while fewer people may belong to christian churches or communities, americans will likely retain some form of religious identity – especially if what’s happening in europe is an indicator of things to come.. a new pew forum survey conducted in western europe reveals that christianity is waning there even faster than it is in the united states.
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"When asked if these “atheist churches” could be described as a form of religion, the founder of the Seattle Atheist Church responded with a “definite ‘yes.’" - J. Warner Wallace, Fox News.
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Spiritual "Protection" - a Menace on Psychological Development
by Wake Me Up Before You Jo-Ho innot quite a week ago, @lost in the fog created a thread entitled: do you have this illness?.
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5187824140681216/do-you-have-this-illness.
in my year of being on this forum, i have browsed many a disillusioned thread of ex-jehovah’s witnesses expressing similar symptoms of post traumatic stress disorder when detailing their awakening - my own story included.
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@AllTimeJeff: "Let me repeat that last part on shame, because it IS important if you are reading this: Shame is a HUGE tool, a control tool, of the Governing Body. Ashamed of your thoughts and opinions. Ashamed you had an original thought at all. Ashamed that you have a dream, a talent you know you can express and give. Ashamed of your sexuality. Ashamed that you disagree. Yeah, shame. Take a breath, and dig in on that. You'll need to deal with it."
Oooof. This. @GrreatTeacher, one just needs to glance over the second stage of Erikson's psychosocial theory to recognize where the development of an adult Jehovah's Witness is arrested. Since Watchtower has assumed the role of Witnesses' ultimate parental authority ("accept enlightening instructions from His motherly organization." - WT, 1 May 1957, p274), it has completely exacerbated the crisis between autonomy and shame/doubt on ADULTS.
Erikson recognized that even at age two, children should be encouraged to be independent. Yet what kind of parent is Watchtower?
"We are glad to forsake the independent thinking patterns of the world." - WT, 15 August 1988, p30.
I can recall a more recent instance in the "apostate-driven lies" speech Lett made on JW Broadcasting. There, he reminded Witnesses to "pursue oneness, even it means foregoing personal rights," which includes one's right to decide on even their personal apparel and hairstyle.
So rather than bestowing Witnesses with the virtue of will and autonomy, Watchtower instills precisely what @AllTimeJeff captured in a single paragraph: SHAME. Being overly criticized and dressing it up as "counsel" renders the Witnesses as inadequate, fuelling their low self esteem, doubt in their own abilities and an overdependence on their "motherly organization". And that's exactly where Watchtower needs us to be. Old infants.
I'm very interested to hear your take on Erikson's ego integrity versus despair crisis when applying it to Witnesses who suddenly come to grips with their mortality!
@j1692 Lol, it's Jennifer Garner from a scene in the 2005 film, Elektra. Here's another angle of the shot where Elektra absorbs sagacious words uttered by her martial arts master, Stick (Terence Stamp):
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Anyone ever know gays in the hall that are lying to them selfs or others?
by blownaway ini know of three situations i saw myself.
the first one was when i lived in arcadia.
all the people i use names on are dead and gone so no probs.
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@scruffmcbuff: "They say our love wont pay the rent....."
No romance without finance...
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@smiddy3 Modern day image accompaniment:
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sexual harassment problem solved
by MightyV8 inwarning.
i found this very funny.. it is by all means not to offend which is why it is in the "jokes & humour".
if you are a feminist please do not watch.
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"Sean doesn't know about it."
Baaaahhhh.
Reminds me of this clip I saw years ago from Russell Peter's. Skip to 02:33 where he recounts a similar theory for why Spanish people all speak with a lisp and Latinos do not:
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How do you feel you have progressed ?
by stuckinarut2 inin the months or years since leaving the organization, how do you think you have progressed as a person?.
(or if you have regressed too i guess?).
what aspects of personal development are you happy with?.
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@Whynot xxx
There's nothing more awkward than wondering how to explain yourself when entering some existing friendship circles...
Where do you come from? What's your circle? Where are your friends? Why don't you have friends? Are you normal?
It's like you've got social training wheels on as you get uprooted from your beloved hometown and thrust into a brand new school. It's daunting when you start the tenth grade as you stare into a sea of strange cliques whose seats seem to be all filled.
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This Week CLM Meeting
by zophar inso, this week on the clm there was an interesting comment at our kh.. under the "apply yourself to the field ministry" portion this week, there was the bible study assignment based on the publication: who are doing jehovah’s will today?
published in 2016. the material was from lesson 28 "what can be found on our website?
there is a footnote at the bottom that reads: .
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@zophar Wow. That's a very off-script thing for him to have said! It completely flies in the face of Watchtower's staunch attitude of DENY, DENY, DENY. I would have approached him afterward and tested the waters!
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Everything Happens For A Reason
by Charles Gillette indoes everything happen for a reason?
i hear this from so many people without any explanation as how this is so.
what do you think about this belief?
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@galaxie: “sounds like someone elses reasoning… is of profound interest to you”.
Well, of course. That is the case for all thinking people. Perhaps some are more conscious than others of the fact that thoughts don’t just appear in our minds out of nowhere. Often, as you indicated, they’re someone else’s thoughts - someone long dead, in many cases. Even the words we use to think are utterances of people who have been long dead. Consider your seemingly innocuous disposition of requiring evidence before you “buy it”. That’s hardly an original stance, yet if we were to critically deconstruct each and every phrase, thought and idea that one another uttered, we’d find ourselves spending days at a time trying to get through a single conversation.
I’m not sure why you put “biological” in inverted commas. Were you simply quoting me? Or were you unable to connect the principle of human biology with our quest toward maximal development within our species? One just needs to take a glance at drama, mythology, literature, art - even the very discussion we’re having on this thread - to see a common theme of humanity’s struggle to rise above its animal forebearers and become more conscious of what it means to be human.